John and Jane Williams, and Their Family
References to John
John Williams (bc. 1724) and Jane ___ Williams (bc. 1728)
John and Jane Williams Family
Birth Order, Estimated Birth and Marriage Years, and Residences
by © O. James Brown Klein
December 15, 2008
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John and Jane Williams Family Origins, and
Children’s Birth Order:
We have estimated the births of John Williams
to be about 1724, and of his wife, Jane, to be about 1728,
as explained below. Family tradition indicates that John and Jane
Williams, or their ancestors, came from England. It appears that in
America, John and Jane Williams lived in New Hampshire, and then migrated
down to Maryland, and then into Rowan County, North Carolina.
New Hampshire is mentioned as where they lived in
the earliest known public document referencing their origins, the source of
which is their grandson, Williams Brown (1796-1884), who declares that his
mother, their daughter, Mary or Polly Williams (bc.1760-1827), was
born in New Hampshire. See the
Federal Census, Boon Hill Township, Johnston County, North Carolina.
Maryland, however, is listed as the birth place of all the family, parents
and children, in a family group record prepared by Hazel Everan Brown
Radley, Salt Lake City, Utah, citing the records of Mrs. Hattie C. Jensen,
Salt Lake City, Utah. We know they lived in Rowan County where their
daughter, Mary or Polly Williams (bc.1760-1827), was married to and
lived with James Brown (1757-1823), and where their nine children
were born and raised.
The earliest and
most reliable birth order of the eight children of John and Jane Williams
appears in the
Moroni Brown's 1891 Record Book
kept by Moroni Brown (1840-1916), youngest son of James Brown (1801-1863),
LDS microfilm # 928,328, Item 2, page 5. See also the Logan Temple Baptisms
for the dead, 23 June 1891, LDS microfilm # 177,852, page 108.
The Williams family
is listed here by their names in the order they appear in Moroni’s book,
with brackets  providing other name spellings from other family sources:
“John and Jane
1. [Elizabeth] or Betsy Williams, wife of Henry Poe.
2. Nancy Williams.
3. Clarisa Williams.
4. Jessey [Jesse] Williams.
5. Elijah Williams.
[Mary or] Polly Williams wife of James Brown.
7. Jane Williams, wife of Mike [or Michael] Oxyer.
8. Millie [or Millia] Williams wife of Tho. [Thomas] Williams had one
child named Nancy [Brown.”
Birth and Marriage Dates
All of the birth and
marriage years of our Williams family are estimated using the standard
genealogy birth-to-marriage assumptions (25 years for men, and 21 years for
women), and based on the birth order listed above, and measured from the
approximate 1760 birth year of Mary or Polly Williams (bc.1760-1827),
wife of James Brown (1757-1823). The births of their other children
are estimated as being two years apart using the standard genealogy two-year
The anchor point in
our analysis of birth dates is that Mary or Polly Williams’ birth
year is estimated as being about 1760 because of the facts known
about her life. See these details in the notes and sources in the file of -
Mary or Polly Williams (bc.1760-1827) of New Hampshire or Maryland,
wife of James Brown (1757-1823).
Thus the estimated
birth year of John Williams is 1724, 26 years year before the
estimated birth year 1750 of their first child, Elizabeth or Betty
Williams, which is 10 years before Mary or Polly Williams was
born in 1760. The estimated birth year of Jane ____ Williams
is 1728, 21 years before 1750. Their estimated marriage year is
1749, one year before 1750. Again, it is estimated their children were
born two years apart.
Summary of the
Williams Family’s Estimated Birth and Marriage Years:
Williams was born about 1724.
Jane _____ Williams was born about 1728.
They were married about 1749.
Their birth places are yet uncertain, but they appear to be
living in New Hampshire when some, if not all, of
their children up to Mary or Polly Williams is born in
Elizabeth or Betsy Williams was born about 1750 in New Hampshire
wife of Henry Poe, born about 1746.
They were married about 1771.
2. Nancy Williams was born about 1752 in New Hampshire or
3. Clarisa Williams was born about 1754 in New Hampshire or
4. Jesse Williams was born about 1756 in New Hampshire or
5. Elijah Williams was born about 1758 in New Hampshire or
6. Mary or Polly Williams was born about 1760 in New Hampshire or
of James Brown, born 1757.
7. Jane Williams was born about 1762 in New Hampshire or
Maryland, wife of Michael
Oxyer, born about 1758.
They were married about 1783.
8. Millie or Millia Williams was born about 1764 in New
Hampshire or Maryland, wife
of Thomas Williams, born about 1760.
They were married about 1785. They had one child named
estimated to be born about 1786.
O. James Brown Klein.
Copyright: Used with permission.
Level: B (document verified and proofed by a person other than
transcriber or typist).
Certificate: Document Donor: Jim Klein, December 15, 2008.
Verified/Proofed: Jim Klein, Jim Klein, December
15, 2008. See
References to John
Journal of James S. Brown, Part I, Section III, 1849 and
1869, pages 2 - 6, James Stephens Brown, copied by Brigham Young
University, Provo, Utah, 1968. See James
Stephens Brown - Parent's Genealogies.
Wiscombe's Book - Williams Family.
James S. Brown Journal
- Parent's Genealogies