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John Williams (bc. 1724, d. 17??)

     John Williams (bc. 1724) and Jane ___ Williams (bc. 1728) are the parents of Mary or Polly Williams (bc. 1760-1827) who married James Brown (1757-1823), and seven other children. 

     Family tradition indicates that John and Jane Williams, or their ancestors, came from England. 

     It appears that in America, John and Jane Williams lived in New Hampshire, and then migrated down to Maryland, and then into Rowan County, North Carolina.

John and Jane Williams

 

John Williams (bc. 1724, d. 17??)

John and Jane Williams, and Their Family
References to John Williams

 


John Williams (bc. 1724) and Jane ___ Williams (bc. 1728)
 

John and Jane Williams Family
Birth Order, Estimated Birth and Marriage Years, and Residences


by © O. James Brown Klein
December 15, 2008
All rights reserved
 

John and Jane Williams Family Origins, and Children’s Birth Order:

     We have estimated the births of John Williams to be about 1724, and of his wife, Jane, to be about 1728, as explained below.  Family tradition indicates that John and Jane Williams, or their ancestors, came from England.  It appears that in America, John and Jane Williams lived in New Hampshire, and then migrated down to Maryland, and then into Rowan County, North Carolina.

     New Hampshire is mentioned as where they lived in the earliest known public document referencing their origins, the source of which is their grandson, Williams Brown (1796-1884), who declares that his mother, their daughter, Mary or Polly Williams (bc.1760-1827), was born in New Hampshire.  See the 1880 Federal Census, Boon Hill Township, Johnston County, North Carolina.  Maryland, however, is listed as the birth place of all the family, parents and children, in a family group record prepared by Hazel Everan Brown Radley, Salt Lake City, Utah, citing the records of Mrs. Hattie C. Jensen, Salt Lake City, Utah.  We know they lived in Rowan County where their daughter, Mary or Polly Williams (bc.1760-1827), was married to and lived with James Brown (1757-1823), and where their nine children were born and raised.

      The earliest and most reliable birth order of the eight children of John and Jane Williams appears in the Moroni Brown's 1891 Record Book kept by Moroni Brown (1840-1916), youngest son of James Brown (1801-1863), LDS microfilm # 928,328, Item 2, page 5.  See also the Logan Temple Baptisms for the dead, 23 June 1891, LDS microfilm # 177,852, page 108.

      The Williams family is listed here by their names in the order they appear in Moroni’s book, with brackets [] providing other name spellings from other family sources:

John and Jane Williams children:

1.  [Elizabeth] or Betsy Williams, wife of Henry Poe. 
2.  Nancy Williams.
3.  Clarisa Williams.
4.  Jessey [Jesse] Williams.
5.  Elijah Williams.
6.  [Mary or] Polly Williams wife of James Brown.
7.  Jane Williams, wife of Mike [or Michael] Oxyer.
8.  Millie [or Millia] Williams wife of Tho. [Thomas] Williams had one child named Nancy [Brown.”


Birth and Marriage Dates

     All of the birth and marriage years of our Williams family are estimated using the standard genealogy birth-to-marriage assumptions (25 years for men, and 21 years for women), and based on the birth order listed above, and measured from the approximate 1760 birth year of Mary or Polly Williams (bc.1760-1827), wife of James Brown (1757-1823).  The births of their other children are estimated as being two years apart using the standard genealogy two-year birth assumption.

     The anchor point in our analysis of birth dates is that Mary or Polly Williams’ birth year is estimated as being about 1760 because of the facts known about her life.  See these details in the notes and sources in the file of - Mary or Polly Williams (bc.1760-1827) of New Hampshire or Maryland, wife of James Brown (1757-1823).

    Thus the estimated birth year of John Williams is 1724, 26 years year before the estimated birth year 1750 of their first child, Elizabeth or Betty Williams, which is 10 years before Mary or Polly Williams was born in 1760.  The estimated birth year of Jane ____ Williams is 1728, 21 years before 1750.  Their estimated marriage year is 1749, one year before 1750.  Again, it is estimated their children were born two years apart.

Summary of the Williams Family’s Estimated Birth and Marriage Years:

John Williams was born about 1724.
Jane _____ Williams was born about 1728.
    They were married about 1749.
    Their birth places are yet uncertain, but they appear to be living in New Hampshire when some, if not all, of
    their children up to Mary or Polly Williams is born in about 1760.

 1.  Elizabeth or Betsy Williams was born about 1750 in New Hampshire or Maryland,
            wife of Henry Poe, born about 1746.
            They were married about 1771.
2.  Nancy Williams was born about 1752 in New Hampshire or Maryland.
3.  Clarisa Williams was born about 1754 in New Hampshire or Maryland.
4.  Jesse Williams was born about 1756 in New Hampshire or Maryland.
5.  Elijah Williams was born about 1758 in New Hampshire or Maryland.
6.  Mary or Polly Williams was born about 1760 in New Hampshire or Maryland, wife    
            of James Brown, born 1757.
7.  Jane Williams was born about 1762 in New Hampshire or Maryland, wife of Michael
            Oxyer
, born about 1758.
            They were married about 1783.
8.  Millie or Millia Williams was born about 1764 in New Hampshire or Maryland, wife    
            of Thomas Williams, born about 1760.
            They were married about 1785.  They had one child named Nancy Brown,
            estimated to be born about 1786.
 

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Document Data

Sources:     O. James Brown Klein.
Copyright:  Used with permission.
Level:         B (document verified and proofed by a person other than transcriber or typist).
Certificate:  Document Donor:  Jim Klein, December 15, 2008.  Verified/Proofed:   Jim Klein, Jim Klein, December 15, 2008. See Donors.

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References to John Williams

Journal of James S. Brown, Part I, Section III, 1849 and 1869, pages 2 - 6, James Stephens Brown, copied by Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, 1968.  See James Stephens Brown - Parent's Genealogies.

Wiscombe's Book - Williams Family.
 

James S. Brown Journal - Parent's Genealogies

James S. Brown Journals

His Parents’ Declarations of Their Genealogies

[Note: Original spelling and punctuation maintained].

March 1849                                                                                                             James S. Brown, Page 2

[Two pages are left blank.]

Calhoun Harison County Iowa

March 8th 1849

This day I, James S. Brown 3rd, Trace back the geneolegy of my Ancesters By information of my Father Daniel Brown. An I Shal comence back as fare as my father can giv me an a count of his Fathers and then on down to my an generation with a design to continy the histry and hav it continud from generation to generation. That my postarity may know from whence they Sprang. An who their ancesters was and so forth. Thus I comence the inquiry of My Father in his own hous.

James Brown was Born in the year 1757 in the State of North Carlina Roann County. And was maried in the same state and county to the widow of John Emberson Who was killed in the Revelution War, the Widow had 2 children a son and Dauter Marget and John She bore to James Brown 9 children 3 sones and 6 dauters whos Names was as folows Jane; Poly; Nancy; Susan; Patsy Willian; Obiedianc; the Next was a Name sake James and Then Daniel my Father who transmits the abov information to me The Widow Embersons Madon Name was Mary Williams.

James Brown was of Portigee and English Decent And his wife was of English Irish, Decent; Neither of them had any Education a tall; And theire progeneters kept, So we canot go any further Back than; them, James, Brown, volenterd in the serves of the United States of America when he was 20 years old and served as a private Solder, but it is not known how long he served. He was a farmer ful of life and as Ambitious as a Tiger was a Smart But Rood man. And continud So; far about 30 years at which time he atatched him self with his wife to the Unided Baptis church After which he became Very pious and morel and live So to the day of his deth which curd in the fore said,

 

March, 1849                                                                                                         James S. Brown, Page 3

County and State; on the 27 day of March 1823, Daniel Brown was Born June 30th 1806 in the county of Roann State of North Calina, North America Being the youngest; of the famly remaind At home till his father dide and on the 18 of October 1823 he maried Elizabeth Stephens Who was Born in the same county and State; on the 10 of Febuary; 1809.   . . . .

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Document Data

Notes:        Original spellings and punctuation maintained.
Sources:     James Stephens Brown, Journal of James S. Brown, Part I, Section III, 1849 and 1869, pages 2 - 6, copied    
                   by Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, 1968.
Copyright:  Used by permission.
Level:         A (document verified and proofed by a person other than transcriber or typist).
Certificate:  Document Donor: Jim Klein, June 7, 2000. Transcribed: Maria Klein, June 2,
                  2000. Verified/Proofed: Karen Klein, June 7, 2000. See Donors.

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